Warrior Armour Question - Guild Wars Forums

quadratics · Jul 23, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

Hey

Im lvl 20 W/Mo and i got kurzick armour.

I've been looking around at different warrior armours and i thought that the best armour u could get just came with 80 AL and 20 AL against physical damage.

But i have also looked at some other websites and a program that can be DL off guild wars freaks which says dragon armour has 90 def and 10% against physical, Sentinel's armour had 80 AL and bonus 20 AL req 13 str, etc.

Is this true? or is it not true? or was it once true but they patched it and now there all the same?

One more little question is that i read sumthing which said u get an extra 15 attrib points for sumthing to do with, The Forgotten Wisdom and another 15 for sumthing to do with heroes Challenge (Secondary Job Change)

In other words instead of my standard 170 attrib points i would have 200

Thx for any help u can giv me, very grateful

Mr. Fahrenheit · Jul 23, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Max Warrior's armor will always be 80, perhaps the website or program got it wrong.

And yes the max attribute points you can have is 200.

quadratics · Jul 23, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01

Thankyou for the help i just found the two quests that giv me the extra attribute points and thx for help in relation to the armour

Tijger · Jul 23, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Basic warrior armor levels now are 80 AL + 20 AL vs physical, what that site/program is referring to is the 'old' armor types where the name of the armor implied the bonus, now we use insignia's for that purpose and the name is only the skin.

For instance, Dreadnoughts give you +10 vs elemental making your armor basically 90 AL +10 vs phys.
There's also 100 AL armor but that has a req of 13 strength (Sentinels insignia, I believe).

Pandemic187 · Aug 05, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39

Where do I find these quests? I've been looking but I'm having trouble finding them. I've been looking in the desert for Forgotten Wisdom but I can't seem to come across it.

Pae · Aug 05, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42

I'm assuming that your character started in Prophecies, since you're looking for Forgotten Wisdom. If not, there's Attribute Quests.

There's Forgotten Wisdom and the second one that you'll be looking for
The Hero's Challenge (easy if you already have the outposts in Crystal Desert).

Pandemic187 · Aug 05, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Yes I looked at Wiki but I can't find it...

I mean is this person I'm looking for in Skyward Reach somewhere? So basically I have to walk around in the desert aimlessly until I find it? I mean...that's why I was asking for help. Because the map on Wiki doesn't help me very much.

EDIT: Somone JUST uploaded a map that actually shows where to go.

Melei Hawke · Aug 05, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27

If you are a prophecies character you will get the first quest in Destiny's Gorge. Then you will have an arrow to follow. The second quest is obtained from Vanyi in Droknar's Forge and is two part, you have to complete one before you actually get the quest for the points.

DarkFlame · Aug 06, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Max warrior armor has a base of 80 and since the last major update, it is the same across all sets. If you want the higher armor lvls, like those in the old sentinels and dragon armors, look at the inscriptions available for your warrior armor and add the ones that you want.

Iuris · Aug 06, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

For a complete answer:

-ATTRIBUTE points: while levelling, you don't get all of the attribute points directly. 30 points of the maximum are missing. These are received by doing two quests, which differ depending on the campaign the character was made in. Each character can only do the two from his "home" campaign.

Prophecies: one quest in the crystal desert, one in the southern Shiverpeaks.
Factions: two quests, both on Shing Jea island. One is only available after you beat the Zen Daijun mission.
Nightfall: two quests, both only require you to gain sunspear ranks, both received in Sunspear grat hall.

Look up "attribute quest" in gw.gamewikis.org for details.

-ARMOR: All maximum armor has a baseline performance, and can then get an insignia for an additional conditional bonus. In the case of warrior armor, the "clean" set of armor has 80 universal armor, 80 vs. elemental damage, 100 vs. physical damage. You could then add some insignia that can raise this (For example: dreadnought insignia would increase your armour to elemental damage by 10, making it universal 80, 90 vs. elemental, 100 vs. physical).

Nowadays, all armour works this way, meaning with insignia. Previously, however, there were no insignia. Thus, all armour came with a "built in" insignia. So for example, you didn't get an armour of 80+20, but rather a dragon armour 90+10. However, those armours could not get insignia, so you lost no function there. Also, all armour was converted to the new system in one of the later updates.

As a matter of fact, it's better now. Take knights armour: the armour "skin" always had the knight's effect (-3 damage reduction), but you couldn't get, for example, an energy bonus on the same skin.

Jul 23, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48	#1
quadratics Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: secret Profession: W/Mo	Warrior Armour Question Hey Im lvl 20 W/Mo and i got kurzick armour. I've been looking around at different warrior armours and i thought that the best armour u could get just came with 80 AL and 20 AL against physical damage. But i have also looked at some other websites and a program that can be DL off guild wars freaks which says dragon armour has 90 def and 10% against physical, Sentinel's armour had 80 AL and bonus 20 AL req 13 str, etc. Is this true? or is it not true? or was it once true but they patched it and now there all the same? One more little question is that i read sumthing which said u get an extra 15 attrib points for sumthing to do with, The Forgotten Wisdom and another 15 for sumthing to do with heroes Challenge (Secondary Job Change) In other words instead of my standard 170 attrib points i would have 200 Thx for any help u can giv me, very grateful

Aug 05, 2007, 07:42 AM // 07:42	#6
Pae Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	I'm assuming that your character started in Prophecies, since you're looking for Forgotten Wisdom. If not, there's Attribute Quests. There's Forgotten Wisdom and the second one that you'll be looking for The Hero's Challenge (easy if you already have the outposts in Crystal Desert). Last edited by Pae; Aug 05, 2007 at 07:45 AM // 07:45..

Aug 05, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21	#7
Pandemic187 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2007	Yes I looked at Wiki but I can't find it... I mean is this person I'm looking for in Skyward Reach somewhere? So basically I have to walk around in the desert aimlessly until I find it? I mean...that's why I was asking for help. Because the map on Wiki doesn't help me very much. EDIT: Somone JUST uploaded a map that actually shows where to go. Last edited by Pandemic187; Aug 05, 2007 at 06:23 PM // 18:23..

Jul 23, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53	#2
Mr. Fahrenheit Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Broadway Profession: D/	Max Warrior's armor will always be 80, perhaps the website or program got it wrong. And yes the max attribute points you can have is 200.

Jul 23, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01	#3
quadratics Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: secret Profession: W/Mo	Thankyou for the help i just found the two quests that giv me the extra attribute points and thx for help in relation to the armour

Jul 23, 2007, 10:16 AM // 10:16	#4
Tijger Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: Mo/E	Basic warrior armor levels now are 80 AL + 20 AL vs physical, what that site/program is referring to is the 'old' armor types where the name of the armor implied the bonus, now we use insignia's for that purpose and the name is only the skin. For instance, Dreadnoughts give you +10 vs elemental making your armor basically 90 AL +10 vs phys. There's also 100 AL armor but that has a req of 13 strength (Sentinels insignia, I believe).

Aug 05, 2007, 07:39 AM // 07:39	#5
Pandemic187 Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2007	Where do I find these quests? I've been looking but I'm having trouble finding them. I've been looking in the desert for Forgotten Wisdom but I can't seem to come across it.

Aug 05, 2007, 06:27 PM // 18:27	#8
Melei Hawke Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: SoF Profession: R/Mo	If you are a prophecies character you will get the first quest in Destiny's Gorge. Then you will have an arrow to follow. The second quest is obtained from Vanyi in Droknar's Forge and is two part, you have to complete one before you actually get the quest for the points.

Aug 06, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58	#9
DarkFlame Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ascalon Profession: E/	Max warrior armor has a base of 80 and since the last major update, it is the same across all sets. If you want the higher armor lvls, like those in the old sentinels and dragon armors, look at the inscriptions available for your warrior armor and add the ones that you want.

Aug 06, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14	#10
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	For a complete answer: -ATTRIBUTE points: while levelling, you don't get all of the attribute points directly. 30 points of the maximum are missing. These are received by doing two quests, which differ depending on the campaign the character was made in. Each character can only do the two from his "home" campaign. Prophecies: one quest in the crystal desert, one in the southern Shiverpeaks. Factions: two quests, both on Shing Jea island. One is only available after you beat the Zen Daijun mission. Nightfall: two quests, both only require you to gain sunspear ranks, both received in Sunspear grat hall. Look up "attribute quest" in gw.gamewikis.org for details. -ARMOR: All maximum armor has a baseline performance, and can then get an insignia for an additional conditional bonus. In the case of warrior armor, the "clean" set of armor has 80 universal armor, 80 vs. elemental damage, 100 vs. physical damage. You could then add some insignia that can raise this (For example: dreadnought insignia would increase your armour to elemental damage by 10, making it universal 80, 90 vs. elemental, 100 vs. physical). Nowadays, all armour works this way, meaning with insignia. Previously, however, there were no insignia. Thus, all armour came with a "built in" insignia. So for example, you didn't get an armour of 80+20, but rather a dragon armour 90+10. However, those armours could not get insignia, so you lost no function there. Also, all armour was converted to the new system in one of the later updates. As a matter of fact, it's better now. Take knights armour: the armour "skin" always had the knight's effect (-3 damage reduction), but you couldn't get, for example, an energy bonus on the same skin.